Here is her story. The response we get is to say "Well what you have to do is you have to compare explanations and see which one's the best" and it's like "Right! Tag: Barbara Snyder healing miracle ms. Secondly we're talking about these things objectively, put yourself in situations where you can have experiential knowledge: pray for sick people that you know they would not be healed unless God showed up. After a year or two of investigation they finally concluded, and we have all of the medical documentation, that no, he had, the way they put it in their letter from the Social Security Administration, "You have received a remarkable return of your visual acuity, therefore, you are no longer qualified for disability." This is pretty silly. And so I guess my first question is, what motivated you to undertake that because your field has been pretty technical New Testament studies. Bad Apologetics Ep 20 - Miracles & even MORE even NEWER Resurrection evidence, Unbelievable? Strobel, 66, is a former investigative journalist with the Chicago Tribune. Even if miracles could be the case, regardless of your worldview, how would you be able to demonstrate that God did it? And of course, accounts from the west, it was easier to get the medical documentation so there were strengths with a lot of these. This is like the difference between theists asking skeptics to explain how the disciples ate fish with Jesus, when in reality what we have to explain is that we have a text that has a story where the disciples ate fish with Jesus. We know exactly how skeletal muscle tissue is developed, and it takes weeks to months. Craig Keener: Thanks. I sort of think that these popular apologetics books will briefly touch on some of these tools that should be used but then that's a stand-in that makes people think that they're actually using them. So we're talking about something like hundreds of millions of people. How can I help? Anyway, so it's the story of how we got together. 2) A child dies from after a doctor concluded that this would be the outcome of the disease. At this point anyone with any reasonable familiarity with how to assess the quality of medical studies should see that this is a worthless study. About a week and a half later at my daughter Allison's soccer there were like 20 families and 20 moms and dads there and one of the fathers that I had said hi to but i didn't know him, walks up to me and he says "Hi, I'm so-and-so" and I said "I'm JP" and he said "how are you doing?" And, in fact, one doctor described her as being one of the most hopelessly ill patients he'd ever encountered.. Snyder ended up in hospice care with a no-resuscitation order; she was nearly blind, her hands and body were curled and she had a tube in her throat to help her breath as well as a tube in her stomach to ensure proper nourishment. You can get a free, one-month trialhere. Previously, she has served as chair of the board of directors of the American Council on Education, chair of the board of directors at the Business-Higher Education Forum, vice chair of the board of trustees of Internet2, a member of the board of directors of the Greater Cleveland Partnership, a member of the board of directors of Jobs Ohio, a trustee ofUniversity Circle Inc., and a member of the Ohio Business Roundtable. Even if we couldn't explain it, we'd say "this is interesting, maybe we should look into these effects more" -- this is what we do for any other proposed medical treatments when we have only two case studies to go on. If you took our remedy, and improved, we want to hear from you. (Read also:Are the Biblical End Times upon us? Craig Keener: Yes. aliens, homeopathy). We don't know the timeline at all or the specifics, or any actual measurements. Elijah: they can verify that before and afterwards and i'm not sure it's rational to call those uh uh just coincidences like you're assuming some type of causality there um and i i think if you even allow for the possibility of something like the christian god to exist then um you've got to take seriously that it could be his action and then make an inference to the best explanation and where i think the voice of science comes in the best is in eliminating hypotheses not necessarily proving that's his voice and so you can go back and go well there's seven different hypotheses science can help us before eliminating some and then we've got two or three and we've got to critically think and go what do i think's most likely the case and i think that's the human situation and we make that call all the time we make it in court. Do you have a testimony that is medically verified?. So I got what I could. She worked as a teacher's aide for Headstart and was a member of St. Mary's Church in Elmira, NY. James rightly points out that the most these people ever seem to provide is: The timeline definitely matters, especially if you're claiming a causal relationship. So where there's cutting edge Evangelism, God does more dramatic things. Partly, because we are human and have many biases. Now you got to go work! The James Randi foundation did this as well, with a preliminary test before the more in-depth test. So what's your response when you pray, lots of people pray, and a miracle doesn't happen? Never miss a big news story again. One The Association of American Universities (AAU), Fostering and Protecting Free Speech on Campus, Renew Investments in Vital Scientific Infrastructure, AAU Universities Battle the Opioid Crisis, Progress Toward Achieving Systemic Change, The Strategic Role of a National Organization. conversation that I was a part of here: Bad Apologetics Ep 20 - Miracles & even MORE even NEWER Resurrection evidence where we respond to the Unbelievable? You need to collect the records, have a medical professional who can actually make sense of that data, and have a medical specialist who is willing to look at the data. It was from a different Congo so the person who did that doesn't know their geography. Despite several operations and treatments, Barbara continued to deteriorate to the point that she was put into respite with doctors orders not to resuscitate. Adapted from Editorial Theme html5up.net | @ajlkn, Join Facebook to connect with Barbara Snyder and others you may know. Subsequent medical records document repeated substantial improvement. Because God told him the coming one was going to baptize in fire. Feel free to reach out if you want more specifics on a given quote or study. The latter has more eyewitness testimony than we have for Barbara Snyder. Nathan: I think what we're seeing here are the fruits of apologetics in some ways. It's a story of how you met your wife, Medina, and I'm taking I pronounced that correctly. There is a second video interview with the woman herself that reports completely different medical history, and differs substantially from the details Keener gives. What are some of the things that just sort of blew your mind that you researched, heard about, read about, came into first hand contact with as you explored this subject. Find your thing. She did it. and Ada Thompson Professor of Biblical Studies at Asbury Theological Seminary in Wilmore, Kentucky. I wear glasses. But theists show no interest in doing this, they're satisfied with the first bad study that confirms what they already believe. If you make such a claim, and that higher-than-average standard is not met, then you cannot be confident in that claim. If there's that many cases there should be enough regularity to detect these things statistically which is exactly the tools we've developed in science to do and to rule out other factors. In my discussion with Jonathan McLatchie on the Still Unbelievable podcast, I said that there hasnt been a verified miracle claim even since Humes essay on miracles. Just to have the words "inference to the best explanation" that legitimizes the inference that you're making rather than actually being able to use inference to the best explanation. Hey, thanks for listening. "One day, one of her friends called WMBI, which is the radio station in Chicago run by the Moody Bible Institute, and said, 'Pray for Barbara. Barbara Snyder earned a bachelor's degree in sociology from Ohio State University and a Juris Doctor degree from the University of Chicago. Or in Matthew 12 and Luke 11 where is says, "If I by the finger of the Spirit of God drive out demons, the Kingdom of God has come upon you." He didn't see any fire so people are getting [inaudible] what's this about? I confess I haven't made it through all 1000 pages. It involves Barbara Snyder and took place nearly 30 years ago. I've read some of the first volume. But because of the asthma he ended up not playing sports with the other kids. Some were tested in prosperity. Craig Keener: I think it's true in some places more than in others. I mean Grant still prayed for healing all his life. The good news will be preached to the poor. my peers call to work on behalf of all of our institutions.. So Craig thanks so much for being with us. Reserve today is in a position to attract a broad range of outstanding When I've heard the murderer analogy it is to argue against Hume's uniform human experience against miracles, because someone could argue for the murderer by claiming it is against his uniform experience to murder someone -- he's never murdered anyone before. It was predicted that she would die soon. Strobel went on to explain that he interviewed skeptics and believers, alike, and included their perspectives in The Case for Miracles. At the end of the project, Strobel said he was shocked to learn that miracles are not only common, but also well-documented. One needs larger than \(N=1\) to establish these effects -- which is why case studies are so ineffective at doing so. Barbara (Burns) Snyder, age 92, of Elmira, NY, passed away Friday, November 18, 2022 at her home. However studies also show about 80% of ER nurses and 64% of ER doctors believe lunar cycles affect patients' mental health, even though the data do not support such an effect. Barbara Snyder is another one that's not in the book. You can see why these stories are powerful and you can see why people really get motivated by them nd so i think it is important to respond to them because of that. [3] Before Snyder became president of CWRU in July 2007, she was formerly the executive vice president and provost of Ohio State University. The Surfaris were a California garage band with an average age of 15 who had been successful enough playing at sock hops and house parties that they were able to acquire a manager. AfghanistanWhere Faith Is a Matter of Life and Death. Once you admit that getting a pool table after prayer is a miracle, then you've admitted that your standards of evidence are outrageously poor. We're all aware of suffering in the world, but miracles is a happy topic. In McLatchie's response, he said of my criticism of the claimed Barbara Synder healing. It also highlights the need for detailed timelines to establish what the effect really is, before trying to grasp at causes. These steps are in place to get at the truth, not to specifically put up barriers to rule out miracles. Patients in the prayer group had less congestive heart failure, fewer cardiac arrests, fewer episodes of pneumonia, were less often intubated and ventilated, and needed less diuretic and antibiotic therapy. The one-on-one treatments, when they show an effect, are confounded by the more intense experience, the one-on-one attention, the group pressures, etc You are adding a lot of psychological elements which make it harder to establish causation. Or even the most dramatic story I found from somebody that I or my wife knows, but this one was particularly mind blowing to me because Antoinette Malumbay was my mother-in-law and Terese is my sister-in-law. If you want to, for our listeners, if you want to read a little bit more about it Craig's written a fairly lengthy book on the whole, the whole narrative of that called Impossible Love. God can heal us through medicine. And she'd also gone blind. It is a reasonable question to ask -- how much evidence is enough? A doctor won't want to look at a regrown kidney because it will look like he did insurance fraud. This means that the original measurements were not accurate enough to establish the lengths, and the follow-up that said it grew back are also not enough. "Barbara Snyder was diagnosed at the Mayo Clinic with multiple sclerosis. Enter your email address to follow this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. in economics from Southern Methodist University. I just was trying to write a footnote for my Acts Commentary because one of the arguments against the reliability of Acts, you know, one fifth of Acts or one third of Mark roughly, deal with miracles. Jonathan McLatchie vs Jonathan Pearce, documentation for the Barbara Snyder case, https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/?s=control&category_name=&submit=Search, this woman was healed of Parkinson's with "Energy Healing". But even with miracles, life expectancy is higher here than in Africa. perhaps a thickening of the intestine would look like a regrowth? It also calls into question the motives of God -- God is more concerned to give you a pool table than to cure leukemia in children or heart defects or nearly anything else. I, sometimes I'll joke it's obvious looking at me that healing doesn't always happen. First of all, is that true? We therefore have to design our investigation to reduce these biases and rule out other possible causes. Barbara Snyder (Barbara Cummiskey Snyder) - healed from multiple sclerosis The institution that is referenced for the work is Global Medical Research Institute (GMRI) and the documentary about miracles referenced is Send Proof. Craig Keener: Probably what surprised me the most was the real evidence for it. Indianapolis, Indiana. I would add that most of these people are praying most of the time, so it's kind of like looking for astrological causes behind earthquakes -- since earthquakes happen all the time, you can always find one preceding or succeeding any other event you want. Thank you so much for having me. Craig Keener: Yeah, she came on a fiance visa, which unfortunately took a bit longer than it should have because by the time we finally made up our minds to get together 9/11 happened right when we were getting ready to send the materials in. Craig Keener, Michael Shermer & Elijah Stephens and a video with Sean McDowell interviewing Craig Keener called Latest Evidence for Modern Miracles. It's all just ad hoc special pleading. This male voice coming from the corner of the room where nobody was said, 'Get up my child and walk, Strobel recounted. She was doing her work in history. He seems really swayed by anecdotal evidence in everything he's written or said, from my experience. You should watch Pinecreek's reaction here -- it pretty much sums it up. university facing significant debt, disaffected alumni, and deep concern about And each of us have different tasks. Ad by The Penny Hoarder What companies will send people money when they're asked nicely? Well first of all, the stories weren't all by any means from Congo, but my wife is from Congo. As I've said before, the fact that there are no videos of this sort is strong evidence against the veracity of miracles. This one is much like the previous one, but there is no study -- just the stories. For 15 years she had been going downhill. I am confident that Case Western As she listened, she said that she heard a male voice coming from the corner of the rooma voice she now believes was God. And they said, "Macular degeneration doesn't undegenerate." Nine out of ten with prayer is the meaning of replicable, so I don't know what he really is thinking when he says miracles are not replicable. She said she'd been curled up like a pretzel. In response, Snyder said, "I am proud to be president of Case Western Reserve and intend to continue in this role for many years to come. If someone gets healed, you often can't get back in contact with that person -- "it almost feels like if a miracle happens you have about 48 hours and then their gone". By signing up to the Blaze News newsletter you agree to receive electronic communications from Blaze Media that may sometimes include advertisements or sponsored content. Here PhD is in history. Scott Rae: Right. I had the pleasure of being a guest on the Real Seekers podcast and discussing / debating miracles with Matthew (atheist) and Dale (Christian) last week. Edwin Booth, perhaps unfairly known today as the brother of assassin John Wilkes Booth, was once upon a time . It's not just saying that the evidence provided is lacking, but there is missing evidence that would be expected on the truth of the claim -- making it an argument against the claim. And you just Well that was one of the reasons people argued against their reliability. She's had no recurrence. I'm just wondering, is it possible to do it the other way around? And that was, that was really hard. "And so that's kind of what prompted me to investigate this issue.". She You've done tremendous work on it that is a huge benefit to the Kingdom, not only with your technical biblical scholarship, but with this incredible stuff you've done on miracles. Barbara began her academic career as an assistant professor at Case Western Reserves School of Law, then joined the faculty of Moritz College of Law at The Ohio State University. Case Western Reserves We know God worked many and mighty miracles throughout biblical times, but for many Christians, we dont see as much evidence for miracles in our lives as there was in biblical times. These two cases are some of the best they have, and they are only modestly interesting, and have plausible mundane explanations. And why aren't there miracle claims of people spontaneously generating electricity? Converted to Pelican theme by Brian Blais. In secular circles, well on the Internet at least, Atheists came out with critiques of it right away. The situation was pretty hopeless until something quite shocking happened. Scott Rae: When we meet the Lord face to face. We have seen this with acupuncture after well-controlled trials were negative, some proponents decided that pragmatic (i.e. So the first part of the answer is sort of true but trivial and also not what they've been doing but then the second part contradicts that by saying "just assume that it's true anyway and start praying for people." Scott Rae: Welcome to the podcast Think Biblically, Conversations on Faith and Culture. Easily testable, and I'd be surprised if this is a real effect once you get past the selection bias and sociological effects, and have good controls including separating number of miracle reports from actual anomalous medical events. his term as board chair this Junewill lead a national search for her A gymnast back in high school, Barbara hadn't walked in seven years. "Barbara Snyder was diagnosed at the Mayo Clinic with multiple sclerosis. What do atheists think of Barbara Snyder, who was healed of all her symptoms and all her illness to the point where 31 years later she's completely healthy? It's in American History, which is not, well there's a lot of Americans who can teach American History, so she especially teaches French. Doesn't seem to be anything other than perhaps theology. Scott Rae: Yeah. 2022 Blaze Media LLC. In his most recent book, Strobel decided to look at miracles. We're talking about a lot of evidence. Both great books that I encourage all of our listeners to get hold of and to digest. What is that? Scott Rae: Okay. It still could fit James, Chapter Five or gifts of healings for those of us who believe in that. What about single cases? She deteriorated over a period of many years, several operations, many hospitalizations," Strobel explained. He ended up reading and it led him into a life of scholarship. Also we need to know what happens when there is no treatment as a control. The character played by Hilary Swank in the 2007 movie The Reaping was based partially on my work as a miracle detective. So I asked Antoinette Malumbay, "How long was it that Terese wasn't breathing?" I don't think they have established a real effect yet, so it's premature to speak about causes. He encountered scores of healings and other claims of the miraculous along the way, but there was one case in particular that truly blew his mind: the case of Barbara Snyder. So it was just going to be a footnote, but as I researched it more and more it grew more and more. Really? I asked. So as you've cataloged these different stories and different accounts, what's been the sort of the breath of the geography that's been involved? This is clearly a rare medical case -- but with 7 billion people you'd expect some of these often just by the law of large numbers. A question also came out that if the scientific standard seems too high for these theists, in which discipline would the standard not be too high? This is a very important fact to grasp, so let me repeat it. It's not enough to be given the treatment and see an improvement afterward. In this case, Shermer's argument is that there is a context (e.g. Her blindness, too, had been instantaneously healed. And I talked with two of her doctors from the time and they both testified, "Yes, this is, there's no medical explanation for this." However, after analyzing several miracles Strobel is convinced they are. What happens if you don't have randomized-controlled studies in medicine? In his early 30s? James is right that the evidence on a lot of these cases is really really bad. Prayer, in her house, probably occurs even more frequently. Done! Kamil makes the interesting point that the testimonies of different religions only reflect what that particular religion has as a theological component. I don't believe Barbara Snyder was cured by the intervention of some agent outside the natural world. It is pretty clear that not much can be said confidently. The primary studies here are Case Studies, which are some of the lowest and least informative types of studies in medicine (see https://guides.library.stonybrook.edu/evidence-based-medicine/levels_of_evidence) with Meta-studies, Systematic reviews, and Randomized Controlled Studies being the most effective forms. ", Scott Rae: Yeah, so you had to, I guess you had to check your own-. One can have compelling evidence even when a case could be rendered stronger with even more evidence. It would seem that these people are constantly dealing with skeptics, and the easiest way to address it would be to get the pre- and post- medical test data rather than a summary by one doctor, after the fact. To this day.. It's not biased to be skeptical. All rights reserved. Both cases are discussed in Strobels video linked above as well. So it seems to me you can't discount it all. President Barbara R. Snyder is president of the Association of American Universities. Visit Pure Flix for access to thousands of faith and family friendly movies and TV shows. Is it possible that there was MS and something else, in which case looking for a full recovery from MS is misdirected? Each of those people are in the same position as the boy Elijah speaks about and will certainly attribute a God-given miracle to their healing. Is this case unusual? Given the number of miracle claims, and the bold claims of Christians throughout these videos, and the proliferation of cameras in people's pockets, there should be thousands of convincing videos of miracles. This doesn't affect the doctor reports, but the personal reports. This is the reason the specifics matter. Craig serves with me on the Board of Evangelical Theological Society. He became a Christian in 1981 shortly after he decided to investigate Jesus and the Christian faith after his wife became a Christian. A blessing to the rest of the Body of Christ. But in some places Like I had a student from India, a doctor of ministry student, who said almost everybody that he prays for in India gets healed. "Barbara Snyder was diagnosed at the Mayo Clinic with multiple sclerosis. You look at the seven churches of Asia in the Book of Revelation. You can get a free, one-month trial here. Here I look into the papers he references in response. The opportunity to serve as Case But I think there's a good representative sample. diagnosis by the Mayo Clinic, her condition declined over the next 15 years. So miracles aren't meant to be [inaudible] for the world's problems. prayer, laying of hands, religious service, etc) where miracles are claimed to be happening but they happen in only a small part of those same contexts and there's not a good reason give for that difference. And just trying to stay ahead of the soldiers and the fighting. She was born on April 10, 1930 in Beverly, MA, a daughter of John A. and Irene (Walsh) Burns. Craig Keener: Yeah, and part of it was inherited through my academic training. Bizarrely, her calves were inflated and her once-atrophied muscles worked againand that's not all. But anyway, all healing is temporary because sooner or later we're gonna die unless the Lord comes back before then. You wont want to miss Scotts interview with Dr. Craig Keener, renowned New Testament scholar, who has done in depth research on miracles today. She has extensive experience in reinforcing Case Western Reserves Barbara spent years paralyzed, but stood up in an instant. 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